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Re: HPE Smart Array P440/4G Controller: is Offline Firwmare update possible?


Re: Installing Windows Server 2012 on an ML110 G5 with RAID?

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Using Windows mirroring is definitely not a viable option.

After I installed the OS to a single drive and got everything updated and stable, I went into Drive Manager and enabled mirroring on the volume. In less than a minute one, then both, of the hard drives were labeled with "!" icons. Then both sides of the mirror were labeled "At risk". The Event Log started getting groups of seven disk errors indicating that one of the hard drives had "a bad block". These are new identical Seagate drives (down to the firmware), and SeaTools can't find a thing wrong with either of them.

If I reboot the server and check the volumes, they are marked "Failed redundancy".

If I remove the mirror, everything goes back to work as if nothing had happened.

I have been through this progression three times already.

CL

Re: HPE Smart Array P440/4G Controller: is Offline Firwmare update possible?

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The Custom SPP Bundle I created is bootable, indeed I selected the "Bootable ISO (HP SUM included)" bundle format.

HPE_SPP_Custom_bundle_bootable_ISO_tailored_for_DL180G9_14092016.png

I only added "Windows 2012 R2" as an included Operating System because I initially thought that, despite the fact that I was pretty sure that the HPE SPP Bootable DVD should have been able to update - once its Linux OS was up and running live - both SystemROM, NIC and Smart Array related Firmwares without the need to have any relevant Microsoft Windows 2012 R2 related software packages (packages that are parts of the 32 packages included in my bundle, see below for reference), I was then able to use that SPP Bootable DVD also with the Microsoft Windows 2012 R2 OS once it was installed and deployed...not only without the OS as I tried to do as very first thing.

Probably I misunderstood the purpose of the SPP...but then why I need to eventually include Linux as an additional OS (which Linux then?)?

I thought that SystemROM, NIC and Smart Array related Firmwares, once the SPP is running Live, so in Offline mode, they shouldn't require any related-OS packages to be updated...isn't it?

At this point I'm going back to the original question: How can I Offline update the HPE Smart Array P440/4G Firmware using the SPP (OS agnostic...I mean)? Is it possible?

Or I should use the F9 way? and, if so, where to find the proper HPE Smart Array P440/4G Firmware as requested by the system?

List of 32 packages (Windows 2012 R2 related):

cp021022.exe,HP ProLiant iLO 2 Management Controller Driver for Windows Server 2012,1.15.0.0,Driver,Optional,739624
cp023630.exe,HP H2xx SAS/SATA Host Bus Adapter Driver for Microsoft Windows Server 2012 R2 x64 Editions,2.68.64.1,Driver,Optional,1073696
cp022401.exe,HP ProLiant Smart Array Embedded SATA RAID Controller Driver for Microsoft Windows Server 2012 and Microsoft Windows Server 2012 R2,6.18.4.64,Driver,Optional,763904
cp026989.exe,HP Lights-Out Online Configuration Utility for Windows 2008/2012 x64 Editions,4.7.0.0,Software,Optional,1237344
cp027484.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows - Smart Array P212, P410, P410i, P411, P711m, P712m, and P812",6.64,Firmware,Recommended,5550664
cp027485.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows (x64) - Smart Array P212, P410, P410i, P411, P711m, P712m, and P812",6.64,Firmware,Recommended,6019120
cp027520.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows - Smart Array P230i, P430, P431, P731m, P830i, and P830",2.80,Firmware,Recommended,4712400
cp027518.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows (x64) - Smart Array P230i, P430, P431, P731m, P830i, and P830",2.80,Firmware,Recommended,5269032
cp027594.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows - HP Host Bus Adapters H220, H221, H222, H210i and H220i",15.10.09.00,Firmware,Recommended,4157648
cp028709.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows (x64) - Smart Array H240ar, H240nr, H240, H241, H244br, P240nr, P244br, P246br, P440ar, P440, P441, P542D, P741m, P840, P840ar, and P841",3.56,Firmware,Recommended,6644616
cp028042.exe,HP ProLiant iLO 3/4 Channel Interface Driver for Windows X64,3.10.0.0,Driver,Optional,2592784
cp027308.exe,HPE Emulex 10/20 GbE iSCSI Driver for Windows Server 2012 R2,10.7.110.6,Driver,Optional,977744
cp028045.exe,HP ProLiant Smart Array SAS/SATA Controller Driver for Windows Server 2012 x64 Edition,62.28.0.64,Driver,Recommended,735536
cp028046.exe,HP ProLiant Smart Array HPCISSS3 Controller Driver for Windows Server 2012 x64 Edition,63.12.0.64,Driver,Recommended,759832
cp027827.exe,HP ProLiant Smart Array SAS/SATA Event Notification Service for Windows Server 2008 x64 Editions and Windows Server 2012,6.46.0.64,Software,Optional,814928
cp027782.exe,HP Dynamic Smart Array B120i/B320i SATA RAID Controller Driver for Windows Server 2012 and Microsoft Windows Server 2012 R2 x64 Editions,62.14.0.64,Driver,Recommended,1378664
cp028044.exe,Dynamic Smart Array B140i Controller Driver for Windows 2012/2012 R2 x64 and Windows 10 x64,62.8.0.64,Driver,Recommended,1486400
cp028640.exe,HPE Smart Storage Administrator (HPE SSA) for Windows 64-bit,2.40.13.0,Software,Optional,12817408
cp028642.exe,HPE Smart Storage Administrator (HPE SSA) CLI for Windows 64-bit,2.40.13.0,Software,Optional,6726088
cp028644.exe,HPE Smart Storage Administrator Diagnostic Utility (HPE SSADU) CLI for Windows 64-bit,2.40.13.0,Software,Optional,2666400
cp028697.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows - Smart Array P220i, P222, P420i, P420, P421, P721m, and P822",7.02,Firmware,Recommended,9828992
cp028699.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows (x64) - Smart Array P220i, P222, P420i, P420, P421, P721m, and P822",7.02,Firmware,Recommended,10379888
cp027997.exe,Online ROM Flash Component for Windows - HPE Smart Array B320i RAID controller,15.10.09.00,Firmware,Recommended,2342672
cp027998.exe,Online ROM Flash Component for Windows (x64) - HPE Smart Array B320i RAID controller,15.10.09.00,Firmware,Recommended,2548944
cp027575.exe,Online ROM Flash Component for Windows - HPE Integrated Lights-Out 4,2.40,Firmware,Optional,14004456
cp027691.exe,HPE Broadcom NX1 Online Firmware Upgrade Utility for Windows Server x64 Editions,5.0.0.7,Firmware,Optional,6331344
cp027787.exe,HPE Intel Online Firmware Upgrade Utility for Windows Server x64 Editions,5.0.0.7,Firmware,Optional,5510808
cp027814.exe,HPE QLogic P3P Online Firmware Upgrade Utility for Windows Server x64 Editions,4.0.0.21,Firmware,Optional,8866808
cp027569.exe,HPE QLogic NX2 Online Firmware Upgrade Utility for Windows Server x64 Editions,4.1.0.22,Firmware,Optional,5184504
cp029451.exe,Online ROM Flash Component for Windows x64 - HPE ProLiant DL160 Gen9/DL180 Gen9 (U20) Servers,2.00_12-27-2015,Firmware,Recommended,5968880
cp029738.exe,"Online ROM Flash Component for Windows (x64) - Smart Array H240ar, H240nr, H240, H241, H244br, P240nr, P244br, P246br, P440ar, P440, P441, P542D, P741m, P840, P840ar, and P841",4.02,Firmware,Recommended,6704936
cp029320.exe,Online ROM Flash Component for Windows x64 - HPE ProLiant DL160 Gen9/DL180 Gen9 (U20) Servers,2.20_05-05-2016,Firmware,Recommended,6018952

Re: HPE Smart Array P440/4G Controller: is Offline Firwmare update possible?

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Thanks guys!

You both helped me with your illuminating advices:

 with the "The offline environment is Linux based and therefore requires Linux components."

and

 with the "For offline use you need to select "bootable" and the linux firmware files."

I cloned the Custom SSP I unsuccesfully used yesterday by adding to it (a) Linux OS support (I selected the RHEL 7 for convenience) as per screenshot below:

HPE_SPP_Custom_bundle_bootable_ISO_tailored_for_DL180G9_plus_Linux_OS_16092016.png

The ISO built grew from about 900MB to 1,1GB and packages number grew from 32 to 91 due to the Linux OS addition, not too bad...once depolyed all required component (NIC, iLO and Smart Array) that required a Firmware update was found and updates were finally deployed as expected!

The HPE SPP Custom bundle worked like a charm.

Thanks.

Re: HP Array Utility on Server 2008 core or Hyper-V server

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I wish someone had the answer to this question, as I'm now facing the same problem :(

Re: HPE Smart Array P440/4G Controller: is Offline Firwmare update possible?

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If you use the full build of the SPP, it will work either online or offline for regardless of what OS is or isn't installed on the host server.  The custom build SPP is a bit different.  There are so many combinations that can be selected and some users just want the bare minimum so there isn't rally a catch all for online or offline.  The SPP boot environment is Linux based. If you want the capability to update firmware offline you need to select Linux as an OS option so the .rpm files get added to the image. If you want an image that will work online and offline for Windows, you need to select Linux and the version of Windows you need.  As far as what version of Linux to select use SUSE.

can ML10 v1 support uefi?

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does the ml10 v1 support uefi? It's not correctly identifying large disks....

Re: HPE Smart Array P440/4G Controller: is Offline Firwmare update possible?

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Jimmy Vance wrote: As far as what version of Linux to select use SUSE.

Thanks for clarifying!

Last question: your advice about preferring the SuSE Linux ES operating system to add to the SPP Custom Bundle...is it related to the Linux Live OS used by the HPE SPP or what?


SmartArray, disks and migrations

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Hi to all,

i'm new to HP and SmartArray controllers.

I have some (maybe stupid) questions:

1) can I use my favorite disks vendor with SmartArray or only certified drives labelled "HP" are supported? I have a bounch of Seagate SAS disks that I would like to use.

2) In SmartArray data sheed I've read that disks could be moved across all SmartArray controllers with no data loss as RAID configuration is compatibile for the whole family. Is this backward compatibile? In example, can I move a RAID-6 disks created with a SmartArray p440 to a p840 and viceversa, from p840 to a p440? In this also true for older generation controller like a very old Smart Array P400?

I'm asking this because we don't change servers/controllers very often, so, in case of a big mess, would be easier for us to move all disks from a failed server to a temporary server that could have a different controller (always smartarray) waiting for the replacement part for the broken server. In same corner cases, the temporary server could have a controller older than the original one.

3) Are SmartArray controller supported on all Proliant Server, obviously if the host interface is supported, or are there any constraint, like SmartArray P400 not supported on newer generation and viceversa, SmartArray P840 not supported on a very old DL380G5 ? Having, in house, a single SmartArray controller available for replacement sharing multiple servers, would greatly decrease the maintenance costs.

4) is Debian supported? We only use Debian or XenServer in our environment. Will I be able to do firmware updates from debian ?

ML350G - Configure RAID with SATA Disks connected on the motherboard

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HI,

I have a ML350G6, with a RAID controller P440, with 2 RAID configured (SAS HDD 2.5"), and it works fine.

I addzd 3 HDD SATA 3.5" directly connected on the sata port on the motherboard.

They are seen in the the check at the boot of the server, abd are seen in vSphere (which is installed on the server).

My problem is that I don't see where I can configure a RAID in the BIOS for the HDD connected on the motherboard.

In ORCA, I don't see my HDD, I only the HDD and logical drives of the RAID controller P440.

 

So, how can I configure or enable the RAID for the HDD connected directly on ther motherboard ?

 

Thanks for your help.

And excuse my English....I'm french :-)

 

Re: HPE Smart Array P440/4G Controller: is Offline Firwmare update possible?

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Last question: your advice about preferring the SuSE Linux ES operating system to add to the SPP Custom Bundle...is it related to the Linux Live OS used by the HPE SPP or what?


yes

Re: SmartArray, disks and migrations

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Gandalf123 wrote:

Hi to all,

i'm new to HP and SmartArray controllers.

I have some (maybe stupid) questions:

1) can I use my favorite disks vendor with SmartArray or only certified drives labelled "HP" are supported? I have a bounch of Seagate SAS disks that I would like to use.


Only HPE drives are supported by HPE. Use of non HPE drives is at the customers discretion.


2) In SmartArray data sheed I've read that disks could be moved across all SmartArray controllers with no data loss as RAID configuration is compatibile for the whole family. Is this backward compatibile? In example, can I move a RAID-6 disks created with a SmartArray p440 to a p840 and viceversa, from p840 to a p440? In this also true for older generation controller like a very old Smart Array P400?


The RAID information is stored in what is known as the 'RIS' area on each drive.  You can move drives from an older controller to a newer controller, but generally not the other way around.  For moving drives between same controller models, the controller firmware needs to be the same version or newer on the controller the drives are moving too.


3) Are SmartArray controller supported on all Proliant Server, obviously if the host interface is supported, or are there any constraint, like SmartArray P400 not supported on newer generation and viceversa, SmartArray P840 not supported on a very old DL380G5 ? Having, in house, a single SmartArray controller available for replacement sharing multiple servers, would greatly decrease the maintenance costs.


You would need to look at the quickspecs of the server and the controllers to see what controllers are supported. For your example, a P840 is not supported in a G5 server. Older controllers are generally not supported in newer servers, as the next gen servers usually have enhanced features in new controllers.  Using newer in older or older in newer might work but is not a tested configuration so it isn't supported.


4) is Debian supported? We only use Debian or XenServer in our environment. Will I be able to do firmware updates from debian ?


Debian is supported with the 'P' series Smart Array controllers, these drivers are open source and are provided to kernel.org. Pretty much every Linux distributions includes the drivers for 'P' series controllers. Drivers for the 'B' series Dynamic Smart Array chipset controllers are closed source drivers and only available from HPE for Red Hat and SUSE.

Tools for Debian/Ubuntu are available from the HPE SDR (Software Delivery Repository) at http://downloads.linux.hpe.com click the mcp link. Firmware files are available in .deb format. They can be accessed from the SDR under the fwpp link. A valid warranty or support contract is required to access firmware files.

 

Re: ML350G - Configure RAID with SATA Disks connected on the motherboard

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Nox1669 wrote:

HI,

I have a ML350G6, with a RAID controller P440, with 2 RAID configured (SAS HDD 2.5"), and it works fine.

I addzd 3 HDD SATA 3.5" directly connected on the sata port on the motherboard.

They are seen in the the check at the boot of the server, abd are seen in vSphere (which is installed on the server).

My problem is that I don't see where I can configure a RAID in the BIOS for the HDD connected on the motherboard.

In ORCA, I don't see my HDD, I only the HDD and logical drives of the RAID controller P440.

 

So, how can I configure or enable the RAID for the HDD connected directly on ther motherboard ?

 

Thanks for your help.

And excuse my English....I'm french :-)

 


You can't. The embedded SATA ports are part of the system board chipset and not integrated with the 'P' series Smart Array controller.  If I recall, those ports are only used for the non hot-plug model of the server.  There was also a cable to connect the embedded Smart Array to non hot-plug drives. Since your system has an added Smart Array, you should be able to use the option cable to connect your 3.5" drives to the embedded Smart Array port

Re: SmartArray, disks and migrations

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Thank you for the prompt response
Probably i wasn't clear enough

With "supported" i meant at hardware level not supported by tech support from HP

in example, what if i plug a stock sas disk not branded by hp? Will i be able to use it or the controlled would refuse to bring it up? Some other vendors controllers will mark the disk as unsupported or show the raid as degraded because the disk is not certified

The same for a newer controller on an older server. will it work if the pci slot is the same or the older server refuse to use an unsupported storage card?

The configuration stored on RIS, is the same and compatible for the whole smartarray family or only between near models? In example, a 7-8 years old smartarray configuration is supported on this year controller? Between the two there was multiple controller models released.

Is possible to have a log on what controller is doing? In example, all LSI megaraid controlled has a FWTermLog command that show what controllers is doing or did previously like check consistency or patrol read execution status. Is this the same on smartarray?

How can i know the exact status of scheduled scan like the progress of the ongoing scan process or if the scan has found inconsistencies or bad sectors?

Re: ML350G - Configure RAID with SATA Disks connected on the motherboard

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Hi,

 

Thanks for your ansewer.

OK, so I have to buy this cable because I don't have it.

I just need an adaptator to connect each SATA HDD on a SAS port on the Smart array, it's that ?

Maybe, I have seen this type of câble with one SAS / 4 Sata connector.

 


Re: smart array b140i/p440ar no disk

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I check cables but it the same. And i am sure cabling is ok because there is number over cables

So i try to permute the card p440ar and finally it works.

But i want to know why i need to permute the card p440ar too wheras it is the same model.

thanks

Re: SmartArray, disks and migrations

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Gandalf123 wrote:
Thank you for the prompt response
Probably i wasn't clear enough

With "supported" i meant at hardware level not supported by tech support from HP

in example, what if i plug a stock sas disk not branded by hp? Will i be able to use it or the controlled would refuse to bring it up? Some other vendors controllers will mark the disk as unsupported or show the raid as degraded because the disk is not certified

I don't think the controller will refuse to bring it up, but I think a warning is logged. I have no way to test this as all the drives I have access to are HPE branded.



The same for a newer controller on an older server. will it work if the pci slot is the same or the older server refuse to use an unsupported storage card?

Again, as I stated in my last repsponse "Using newer in older or older in newer might work but is not a tested configuration"  I can say I use P410 and P420 and a few other controllers in a Gen8 Microserver without issue, they are not supported controllers for that server.


The configuration stored on RIS, is the same and compatible for the whole smartarray family or only between near models? In example, a 7-8 years old smartarray configuration is supported on this year controller? Between the two there was multiple controller models released.

Unless something has changed that I'm not aware of, newer model controllers can read the RIS data from older controllers as they are backwards compatible even across models as long as they are 'P' series controllers. This doesn't include the chipset based SATA controllers until the B140i model (which is moot in your case of Debian usage) Arrays created on a B140i can be moved to a 'P' series controller without data loss


Is possible to have a log on what controller is doing? In example, all LSI megaraid controlled has a FWTermLog command that show what controllers is doing or did previously like check consistency or patrol read execution status. Is this the same on smartarray?

How can i know the exact status of scheduled scan like the progress of the ongoing scan process or if the scan has found inconsistencies or bad sectors?

I'm not aware of a logging facility for the controller, but I've never looked for one.  The HPE SSA Diagnostics Utility CLI will show a lot of detail about the status/health of the controller and drives.

You can look at the manuals users guides here for more detailed information. Look at the HP Smart Storage Administrator User Guide

http://h17007.www1.hpe.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/solutions/info-library/index.aspx?cat=smartstorage

 

Re: ML350G - Configure RAID with SATA Disks connected on the motherboard

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Yes, I think it has one SAS end and then fans out to 4 SATA connectors   Look at the server quickspecs for the part number. You should be able to order it from the HPE partsurfer

Installation

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Hi Everyone

I bought Ml10 gen9, i want to install windows server2012. but i cant find smartstart cd.

Is there anyone can help me? appreceiated in Advanced>>Thanks

Re: HP ProLiant ML350 G6 Server - HP Post Screen Changed and I can't change it back to the default.

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I made a backup and erased the system configuration settings, reset to the factory settings and the default Post Screen still doesn't post. 

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